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2100fps for FSN is a target velocity.

Very cool gun!! Bet i,m not the only one to hear it scream:"suuuuuppreeeeess meeeee"!!!!!!!

Extra power spring will take care of mag .problem. I,ve had same thing with my mags

There are at least 3 other versions of the above prototype in the works, some lighter, some heavier. All going to have friction. grooves.

It's ok, i'm over it. I'm to lazy to hold the gradge that long

[quote="user426] Is this a reality.....I'd like to start shooting pellets.....and no offence....how about using spellcheck..... :D Paff, paff, exhale,coff, coff ..... Dude, that's how it comes out after i use the spell check :lmao: [/quote] I guess....not the English version.....LOL[/quote][/quote]...

[quote="user426] Is this a reality.....I'd like to start shooting pellets.....and no offence....how about using spellcheck..... [/quote]
Paff, paff, exhale,coff, coff ..... Dude, that's how it comes out after i use the spell check :lmao:

Still, Chuck is no match to Bruce LEE :p Bruce would have killed that bear with dragon's tail kick :p

Easy transaction, no complications of any kind! :thumb:

You can try to shave off some metal from the base of the sizing die(the part of the die that comes in contact with shell holder), in .005" incruments, till the desiered shoulder movement has being reached. I've done that wit .223, on several ocasions. Sizind dies are like chambers, all defferent one...

Cool!
Here is another way: you can use a large primer reamer to ream out the primer pocket to exept large rifle primer, on brass that has stretched pockets. Dont ask me how, yet, but i know for sure, that the 5.7 case is large enough to fit the large primer.

Still have 20+ boxes left. If some one want's all 20, i'd sell them for $1.000.00 + actual shipping cost.

Sounds like the slide catch release lever may be bent. It could happen if you shoot wile wering thick gloves alot, but usualy that lever breakes away. Allso, if you have a Jarvis BBL, it may be a sign of spring housing starting to go south. Can you post some picktures of the gun disasembled?

Uh, please count me in if you need a tester :drool: . I go to the range just about every weekend to practice various things; I'll sweat out whatever workout you want me to test for you. I'll even shoot from in between my legs upside down. Honestly Blue, we'd pay you to do that, if you were a hot st...

Steve, you are right :thumb: that's exactly were we've got the inspiration
And that is why you'll get your set of conversions for free
No kidding

Can you tell what products in particular?
I could guide you through it, depending on what is available to you.

I'll go ahead and let you guys in on a little big secret project we have going in EA :cool: For lust 2 mo. Jay and i have being working on a conversion for a FSN and PS90, that will allow to shoot a .22 cal pellets, BB's, darts, or sabots, in your bacement or back yard, without desterbing your neigh...

S dnyom rozhdeniya droog :thumb:

Guess, another "post and run"
I wos hoping that kakan wos one of the fellers from Moscow, that is blessed enough to carry one of them PSM's, back in the good ald days

I8asquirrel wrote:I'm a professional squirrel asassin at local filbert and pear orchard.!!I would try some if you need a shooter?

Sasquatch size game is a minimum requirement for oregon residents

UPDATE: Ammo has being shiped today, via FEDEX ground. Have fun guys!

Happy Birthday!!!!

Wow, thats odd, usualy vmax hardly need any crimp. What gun you use to shoot them? If it is one of the first batch ar57, than crimp isn't going to help you.
Just out of curiosity, isn't the bullet supouse to have canelure for roll crimp to be used effectively? Don't think that the vmax has it.

Cashiers check or money order.

Pulled down ss197 40gr vmax may be just the ticket for the chip plinking reload. Check for sale section, i think romer has a few K of thise for sale, as well as EA has them on regular bases.

Ordered a box of XterminaTOR to use for Hog Hunting (Still got about 8 weeks to go before i get them). I own land here in South Central Florida and go Hog Hunting at least 3-4 times a month. Been really anxious to hunt with the 5.7 but for personal experience I want to have a round that I feel conf...

I have a few boxes of S4 in my personal stash, that taking up to much space
$75 per box + shipping
$325 per 5 boxes +shipping
$600 per 10 boxes +shipping

Vitaliy.

Got me there kakan. What you missing there is a PSM pistol, now tell as were do you hide it? Priznavaysya

Good news! The ammo is ready to ship. 1.High-gear 2.Mister freeze 3.AN_OLD_LADY 4.Satellitedr3arms.... Aaron 5.Webarchitect ..................think I've got all of the addresses except webarchitect. If some one has had any address changes, please let me know via PM. Other vice Good Luck Hunting! Vaf...

If you have that mutch time to spair, you can buy a bunch of lighter flints, and put them inside the hollow point, seal the opening with epoxy putty, than watch the spark show on the back stop :guns: :laugh:

....shit, i even play along sometimes, and say that this pistol/cartridge has being designed to penetrate armored personnel transport and stuff :laugh: you should see the looks on some of their faces :lmao:

You know, i've seen a lot of this kind of nonesence, mostly down south, in rural no ventilation type ranges I don't take personaly any more, just take my backstop shreadder machine and money else were :laugh:

Wow, that is cool!
I've being kiking my self in the butt ever sence i've went GSG-5 roud :wall: should have boght 10/22, there just so mutch you can do with it :drool:

Blue, save some of the brass, 100 rounds or so, send them to me, i'll load them with our 55 and 62 gr. solid bullits, than you shoot them and see if we could better the factory stuff. Make shure that the brass is the same brand and fired from your rifle. All you pay for is shipping :cool: I have som...

Blue, try nearest Cabelas, they have all the money to keep their stock up to date. Allso, you can apply for their visa card and get 10% off instantly. I use their card for everyday purchases and whait till i have some points acumulated, than go to the cabelas store and use them. Lust time i've picke...

Judging by our lust test resoults, it is true that lighter hi velocity projectiles couse mutch more tissue dammege vs heavier and slow moving bullets. We've shot a 9mm 115gr+p DPX round (1150fps) in to the same block and descovered that it didn't perform as advertized, ie the woumb chanel wos some w...

VITALIY wrote:1.High-gear
2.Mister freeze
3.AN_OLD_LADY
4.Satellitedr3arms.... Aaaron

1 spot available.

The ammo will ship as soon as we finish developing production loads. 1 or 2 weeks max. Thank's to all.

I'm glad to hear that
Means to me more than money.

Powerstroke Racer wrote: Well done sir and the trigger jobs too, well worth the time and money.

I have had a few hardcore 1911 guys(read Wilson combat, Ed Brown type) have trigger sex with my FN's after EA had their way with them. Finally ganna get to see what all the hype is about at the indoor range tomorrow :p Don't forget to put extra "slide glide" and use "trigger safety" :lmao: Sorry, i...

It has nothing to do with marketing, just pure curiosity. :p We know this bullets will "smoke" any thing they come in contact, all i wont to see is "how bad" it's going to be.

From 1 to 500 will be "499"

Yep makes 2 of us, we ither getting to old for this sht or this sht is getting old :) Ither way, time to go to EA range and shoot some of them underpowered 5.7 rounds, and watch them bounce off the soda can :lmao: Fly you think if i listn a 2pac's song "we hit em up" at full blast for 32 times in th...

Never cared mutch for what others think, alll they have is opinion's, and ya all know what they say about assholes and opinions: everyone has got them , and they all stink :lmao: Dont meen in disrespectful way to the original poster :) you know, just my fillings towards the subject of the debate, th...

Hobknob wrote:Think the zoo would mind if I put down some of their varmints on display? :ponder:

As long as you're not messing with "penguins of madagascar", should be ok :laugh:

AN_OLD_LADY wrote:does rabbit hunting on march 13-22nd count??

That would be a rabbit slaughter :laugh:
Yep it counts.

satellitedr3ams wrote:Sign me up, ill use a domesticated if i have to :thumb: :laugh:

I personally have no problem with that :laugh: let me check with public relations office

1.High-gear
2.Mister freeze
3.AN_OLD_LADY
4.Satellitedr3arms.... Aaaron

1 spot available.

Sounds like an excuse to go coyote hunting! I might be in! gotta make a couple of phone calls. I don't know how soon I can get the guys together to pull this off with someone videoing. Video is obvious to see how quickly it puts an animal down. What kind of photos are you looking for. Dissecting th...

Called my dealer today, they seem to be lost in their paperwork, still waiting for a call back.
I feel uncomfortable calling BATF with my accent :laugh:

Free 50+ box of new preproduction PFP trident ammo to anyone(up to 5 members) who can and will use our ammo for hunting in the near future. Detailed review with pictures and or video, is a requirement
First come first serve, only 5 boxes of 50+rnds are available.

I think it might be a good idea to take a picture of the shroud, off the gun, next to the gun, before sending it, and send it via certified mail. Just in case it magicaly disappears, or who knows what, might happen.
I'll do just that, and have a frend to witness.

My goodness!!!! I'm glad i didn't lost the damn thing. I took the shroud of the gun the day i've bought it, to preserve the finish. And ofcourse it took me 20 min to find it :laugh:

Thanks again for the help! Y go w Protector over Raptor? it seems like the Protector is a lot like the ss197 ammo. Am I wrong about that? Protector is SS197+P and S4 is SS195+p+ Protector is better choice for use as self defence round in doors. S4 hits harder and penetrates harder bariers. Get both...

Pink, and not only i've seen one, i've worked on one as well :D I can attest that that thing is deadliest "pink thing" i've ever seen :evil: are you sure, cuz you ARE russian. I'm sure there are really deadly "pink things" back home. They're only deadly if you have fat savings account in swiss bank...

Pink, and not only i've seen one, i've worked on one as well
I can attest that that thing is deadliest "pink thing" i've ever seen

Pre fragmented projectile. Trident is the name of the bullet. S5 Is the name of the ammo it will be used in

OK, it is there.

Buffman wrote:awesome. You guys working with russians now

You guys shoot these from the FSN yet?

Yes and yes we do have vids with FSN, just need some time to prosess and upload.

We have few more videos, and gels block in the cooler, still to be dissected . I'd say it will take all week to process all the data.

There, finaly we can watch it. It's in the original post.

Blame youtube
Still uploading :wall:

We'll start posting videos as soon as youtube finish conversion. I'll edit my original post, to show youtube short cut. There are tons of material, so it will take some time to sort.

Think we willl be OK this time, we'll make an offer to the chrony that it won't be able refuse: give us reading or die :suicide:

Yeah i know, it's a bit on the light side :laugh:

Good news for BETA team:
We've got all 6 prototype bullets in hand and ready to ship, beginning next week :thumb:

Don't know. Honestly:)
I was at over 30k 3 years ago, lost count since.
This BBL has held up trough all kinds of experimental stuff, and has outlived 2 frames, still going, just not any use for testing.

Roger that padre

OK the gell is ready, tas.looks good :drool: , and should be ok for consum.shooting by sunday.
What is wrong with my key board, it's sticking to my fingers :ponder:

Till sunday for those who'll be there at the sight, and most likely, till monday afternoone, before any pictures and vid's will be posted. It takes a wile to digest, trim, sort, convert, than post the material, in a presentable form. I'm sure we'll post some teasers first.

stg2ahn wrote:So how does the barrel look after that many rounds....???
I am assuming only the accuracy has decreased, but the rifling still looks fresh?

It has a "bald ring" just pass the throat(not the taper on the lands, the lands are gone 1" past throat). Still plenty acurete, just not perfect.

We'll bring 3-4 camera's with us this time
Attention to detail will be at the top of the list, right next to safety. We'll also try to document the test from number of different points.

The big day is scheduled for this Sunday, keep yor fingers crossed :) I'll be "cooking" up an 80lb 24"x10"x10" block of 10% ballistic gelatin tonight. [youtube]<object width="640" height="505"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QOP3u7ueI-g&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowF...

Special thank's to Aaron(satelitedr3arms)!!!
Now we've got everything we need for sunday gell testing :guns:

Lets try it Jay. I have a spring from broken cheep aftermarket PS90 mag, and 2 extensions, all we need is one more extencion, if you have one.
Bet that it will help to ballance the FSN a greate deal(not like it needs it), and reduce that "bone crushing" felt recoil some.

Thank's for posting guys,l i wos few clicks away from loosing $200 there :thumb:

+1 Agree with all of the above positive feed back.
All i can add is that it doesent get mutch better than that, when you deal with this guy :clap:

If it was up to him, he'd banned flint guns as well, and call a still sling shots AP.

Hey! He has stolen that trick from me :lmao:

4.75" i belive, for the pistol.

Guy's, thank you for the quick response :thumb:

blueorison wrote:someone get him one, quick!

On a side note, Vitaliy, how does your trigger finger feel after 20,000K + rounds? :lmao:

You mean the :laugh: index blyster

Grantness wrote: What would you expect to do with such a bullet??
.

2 words:
Hyper velocty :guns:

No not a sabot. The exact weight may be bid higher, but under 20gr, after we put the jacket on it.

Guys if anyone has one, i'd pay a full price for it , or trade any curent production EA ammo for it. The one that i have in my gun is totaly shot out, and need a replacement. The FN parts service is out of stock. The Jarvis is few month wait. Don't care if it is new or used, original or jarvis, or h...

You know the law of the jungle: if it is painted in bright colours, the chances are that it's got a venomous bite

Grant, save a few for testing. We've got a 11.5gr bullet, that can benefit from extra case volume
I don't mean to cut off the wbyman, just save maybe a dozen or so.

Wow, wat a waist

panzermk2 wrote:Yes every thing from Deer, MO wild boars down to exploding woodchucks.

What!!!!!!? "MO wild bores"? Tell me you're joking, or i'd have hard time slipping, knowing that Medula Oblongata has crossbred with american wild bore :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Missing 5.45X18PSM russian. It wos deweloped as a PDW round for MVD oficers, for a clouse range combat, in mid 70's. I's basicly a AK74 bullit loaded in to neked down 9mm MAK shell. 53 grain, 1150fps. Looks alot like SKEETER.

Just got the slide cover, 100% as described. Good communication, patient, polite. I'd not hesitate for a second, to do business again with this guy.

Take trades?

Thank you 1772! I have a Wit. Match 9mm/40/10mm, love it to death, greate pistol. They do have a firing pin safety set up, that could potentialy make the gun start firing FA uncontrollably, if the safety cylinder get stock for any reason, it may disingage the sear and fire the rest of the mag. I hav...

I'd understand, it's true. Since a powder burn is a fast oxidation reaction, the hit or absence of such affects the speed of reaction in a major way.

Sorry to hear that.
Did he just cashed the check and vanished?
May be one of his other victims has found him, and made him accidently shoot him self in the head 100 times with ss192 :suicide:

I've had 2 Jarvis bbls from bad batch, both being replaced with no farther issues. Jarvis has handled the matter in most professional way. I'd not hesitate for a second to place another order , if needed to.

I've definitely learned something new :thumb:

Yep, slower burning pistol powder in both 5.7and 6.8

I was shocked my self with the chrono reading, first I've tried 6.8spc pistol loads, and all I can manage was :) 1500 fps with what suppose to be 2000fps load, then we've shot some 5.7 ammo, and the same story, just less variation ie: 40-45gr bullets were 150+fps slower. I'd not believed that, unles...

Panzer and i were testing current lots of ammo lust Thursday, it was 12F cold. The velocity has being dramatically lower then normal 100- 300fps on 5.7x28 ammo out of FSN, and over 400fps on 6.8spc fired out of 8" pistol bbl. I can't say whether it was any less accurate, but i bet it was. Variation ...

The rifling is rounded of on the edges, is a good tell for a shot out bbl.