Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
By Alan Gottlieb and Dave Workman
Breaking up is so hard to do. Judging from the Democratic Party platform, remarks from presidential nominee Barack Obama and his selection of anti-gun Sen. Joseph Biden as a running mate, the long, transparent courtship of gun owners by Democrats is over and instead of a goodbye kiss, there was a slap in the face; the political approximation of a domestic assault.
It was inevitable. After Democrats lost Congress in 1994 because their actions brought legions of angry gun owners to the polls, the party re-packaged its rhetoric and tried to sell itself as a friend of the Second Amendment. American gun owners, who are increasingly becoming gun rights activists, are not the fools Democrats think they are. As we note in our new book These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War On Guns, Democrats earned their reputation as being the party of gun control. Instead of rhetoric, they need to repudiate their long-standing animosity toward gun owner rights.
The party platform tries to patronize gun owners by claiming to “recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ continued Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.” But then the document quickly reveals that Democrats have changed their tune but not their agenda: “We can work together to enact and enforce common-sense laws and improvements, like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system and reinstating the assault weapons ban...”
Gun owners know that the ten-year “ban” on so-called “assault weapons” – which included more than 200 types of commonly-owned firearms – had no measurable impact on violent crime, and that reinstating it is all about symbolism rather than substance. They know that gun shows are the source of less than one percent of guns used by violent criminals. They know anti-gunners believe “common-sense laws” include licensing, registration and a surrender of the “right to carry” to the discretionary whims of police chiefs and sheriffs.
The party chose Obama as its standard-bearer. He once served on the board of the vehemently anti-firearms civil rights Joyce Foundation. During his first run for public office he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns and semi-automatic rifles. He supports mandatory waiting periods on all gun purchases. He told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in April that “I am not in favor of concealed weapons,” insulting millions of armed citizens who care about self-defense in the process.
Gun owners know Biden as an anti-gun extremist. He consistently earns “F” ratings from gun rights organizations. He claimed credit for writing the original legislation to ban semiautomatic sport-utility rifles that are owned by millions of Americans who have harmed nobody.
The proverbial last straw for the firearms community was Obama’s remark during his acceptance speech that “The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals.”
The “reality” is that gun rights are the same for everyone, no matter where they live. And gun owners know from experience that Democrats falsely believe that the only way to keep guns away from criminals is to oppressively regulate gun ownership for everyone.
Mr. Obama told his faithful that Sen. McCain “doesn’t get it.” Actually, Democrats “don’t get it.” You do not woo people by treating them like criminals, and you cannot “support” someone’s civil right at the same time you regulate it to irrelevancy.
It is now clear to gun owners that Democrats only asked them to the dance just to get through the door.
Alan Gottlieb is founder of the Second Amendment Foundation (saf.org) and Dave Workman is senior editor of Gun Week (gunweek.com). They are co-authors of These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War On Guns.
Breaking up is so hard to do. Judging from the Democratic Party platform, remarks from presidential nominee Barack Obama and his selection of anti-gun Sen. Joseph Biden as a running mate, the long, transparent courtship of gun owners by Democrats is over and instead of a goodbye kiss, there was a slap in the face; the political approximation of a domestic assault.
It was inevitable. After Democrats lost Congress in 1994 because their actions brought legions of angry gun owners to the polls, the party re-packaged its rhetoric and tried to sell itself as a friend of the Second Amendment. American gun owners, who are increasingly becoming gun rights activists, are not the fools Democrats think they are. As we note in our new book These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War On Guns, Democrats earned their reputation as being the party of gun control. Instead of rhetoric, they need to repudiate their long-standing animosity toward gun owner rights.
The party platform tries to patronize gun owners by claiming to “recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ continued Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.” But then the document quickly reveals that Democrats have changed their tune but not their agenda: “We can work together to enact and enforce common-sense laws and improvements, like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system and reinstating the assault weapons ban...”
Gun owners know that the ten-year “ban” on so-called “assault weapons” – which included more than 200 types of commonly-owned firearms – had no measurable impact on violent crime, and that reinstating it is all about symbolism rather than substance. They know that gun shows are the source of less than one percent of guns used by violent criminals. They know anti-gunners believe “common-sense laws” include licensing, registration and a surrender of the “right to carry” to the discretionary whims of police chiefs and sheriffs.
The party chose Obama as its standard-bearer. He once served on the board of the vehemently anti-firearms civil rights Joyce Foundation. During his first run for public office he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns and semi-automatic rifles. He supports mandatory waiting periods on all gun purchases. He told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in April that “I am not in favor of concealed weapons,” insulting millions of armed citizens who care about self-defense in the process.
Gun owners know Biden as an anti-gun extremist. He consistently earns “F” ratings from gun rights organizations. He claimed credit for writing the original legislation to ban semiautomatic sport-utility rifles that are owned by millions of Americans who have harmed nobody.
The proverbial last straw for the firearms community was Obama’s remark during his acceptance speech that “The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals.”
The “reality” is that gun rights are the same for everyone, no matter where they live. And gun owners know from experience that Democrats falsely believe that the only way to keep guns away from criminals is to oppressively regulate gun ownership for everyone.
Mr. Obama told his faithful that Sen. McCain “doesn’t get it.” Actually, Democrats “don’t get it.” You do not woo people by treating them like criminals, and you cannot “support” someone’s civil right at the same time you regulate it to irrelevancy.
It is now clear to gun owners that Democrats only asked them to the dance just to get through the door.
Alan Gottlieb is founder of the Second Amendment Foundation (saf.org) and Dave Workman is senior editor of Gun Week (gunweek.com). They are co-authors of These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War On Guns.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
"The party is over" let's turn out lights and send everyone home. After "they" leave, let the party begin!
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Found a new quote from Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause. - Padmé
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause. - Padmé
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
yep...so true. so true.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
(sings "if the south woulda won we'd have it made" by hank williams jr)
- MrSlippyFist
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 7034
- Joined: 27 Aug 2008, 12:44
- custom title: Sweeper
- Location: Spokane, WA
- Contact:
- Cyberfly
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 10624
- Joined: 19 Aug 2008, 18:44
- custom title: Mens Room Attendant
- Location: SE OKlahoma
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
There is more and more rhetoric.. because of stomping, screaming liberals trying to force their views down the throats of common folk and people are getting sick of it...there's a lot of talk of a second uprising.
WHO they would rise against, I have no friggin idea. But folks with common sense are getting sick to death of these elitists trying to tell them how they should live their lives while preaching, 'do as I say, not as I do'.
That crap is about to backfire on them, and it won't be pretty.
WHO they would rise against, I have no friggin idea. But folks with common sense are getting sick to death of these elitists trying to tell them how they should live their lives while preaching, 'do as I say, not as I do'.
That crap is about to backfire on them, and it won't be pretty.
Never confuse 'The will of the Majority' with 'The will of God'.
**This post created with 100% recycled photons!**
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
well I for one am from rural Ohio and proud of it. They won't get my guns, but they want to make a criminal out of me by passing their whims into laws and I will not stand for that as long as I can still walk. and if I can't walk, they better think twice about coming to get them too...
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Hey I've got a crazy idea.
Instead making gun laws that prevent legal law abiding citizens from owning firearms, let's make laws that put stiffer penalties on individuals who commit a gun crime, let's close revolving door prisons and actually make prison a place where criminals don't want to be (take away tv, 3 meals a day, free porn, work out yards).
Always the democratic party's answer to crime, is to take personal freedoms away from the law abiding citizen instead of going after the criminals.
Instead making gun laws that prevent legal law abiding citizens from owning firearms, let's make laws that put stiffer penalties on individuals who commit a gun crime, let's close revolving door prisons and actually make prison a place where criminals don't want to be (take away tv, 3 meals a day, free porn, work out yards).
Always the democratic party's answer to crime, is to take personal freedoms away from the law abiding citizen instead of going after the criminals.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
I've got one better, why not enforce the laws that are there on the books and give the proper prison terms and instead of letting the bad guys go free all the time.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
:agree:EARS wrote:I've got one better, why not enforce the laws that are there on the books and give the proper prison terms and instead of letting the bad guys go free all the time.
That would be to hard for them to admit.
- Rapier1772
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 12939
- Joined: 20 Aug 2008, 09:00
- Location: Benton City, WA
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Keep the laws but no prison - send them to Iraq instead
How to post pics & videos: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6363
Contrary to popular belief, you CAN fix stupid - it's just illegal.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Rapier1772 wrote:Keep the laws but no prison - send them to Iraq instead
Agree with that but send them over there in a group so they can fight side by side. There is no way in hell that I would want one of those fighting next to me :wall: (that would be them hiding behind a wall) "I should have stayed home" :guns: (ME) "They should have killed them instead of sending them here"
-
- Junior Member
- Posts: 159
- Joined: 26 Aug 2008, 09:43
- custom title: Re-Uped, 15 NOV 08
- Location: Wherever the Army sends me
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
No, dont, I dont want them here. I do like the current Iraqi sentencing guidlines though. Anything over 6 years is automaticly death :clap:Rapier1772 wrote:Keep the laws but no prison - send them to Iraq instead
Edit: Isnt there a place in California we could build a new prison? Death Valley sounds very appropriate too.
Last edited by ehryk on 19 Sep 2008, 07:48, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
My grandfather had a good solution for prison crowding and punishments.
His theory was that you take "them" (whoever you want to punish) and stick them in a sealed room for a month with plenty of water but no food. Then, at the end of that month, you drop in a single knife and fork. Watch the humours situations ensue!
His theory was that you take "them" (whoever you want to punish) and stick them in a sealed room for a month with plenty of water but no food. Then, at the end of that month, you drop in a single knife and fork. Watch the humours situations ensue!
- MrSlippyFist
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 7034
- Joined: 27 Aug 2008, 12:44
- custom title: Sweeper
- Location: Spokane, WA
- Contact:
- MrSlippyFist
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 7034
- Joined: 27 Aug 2008, 12:44
- custom title: Sweeper
- Location: Spokane, WA
- Contact:
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
That's why I'm buying everything I can before november, and deciding to say the hell with paying my quarterly estimated taxes. I'll just wait and file an extension in april and keep as much money from the bastards as long as I can, then take some time off so the income drops and I can claim a lose april 2010 and get it all back.
Re: Democrats to gun owners: ‘The party is over’
Wow. This is the best description I've seen of the coming Obamessiah Administration. People cheering and crying with joy...for a fascist freedom killer.f3rr37 wrote:So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause. - Padmé
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests