Guns are bad MMMMm K
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I just got finished reading this article about the whole Trayvon Martin thing and man is it sickening. I thought maybe you guys would like to punk after reading it as well. I hope you got as angry as I did.
I just got finished reading this article about the whole Trayvon Martin thing and man is it sickening. I thought maybe you guys would like to punk after reading it as well. I hope you got as angry as I did.
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That article is BS like the rest of the media attention it is getting. The kid isn't as baby faced as every picture being shown across the media, let the police do their job, and at the end if Zimmerman committed a crime, then charge him. The kid getting set on fire by two others in Kansas (I think it was Kansas) didn't get this much attention, or the two kids who pushed the shopping cart of an edge and hit a lady two or three stories below walking, wonder why?
And on top if it all that article compares gun shops to porn. That is way off, I work in a gun shop, and customers don't have to buy to look or touch (however its encouraged). How many people can say they picked up a porn magazine and go to do more then look.
And on top if it all that article compares gun shops to porn. That is way off, I work in a gun shop, and customers don't have to buy to look or touch (however its encouraged). How many people can say they picked up a porn magazine and go to do more then look.
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Obviously the author is 'outraged' and needed to vent. Somebody is to blame, so lets blame everyone.
From what I've read, this 'innocent victim' might not be so innocent after all. Let's wait until all the information is in and find out, shall we?
Haters like Spike Lee, who posted Zimmerman's address not once, but TWICE on the internet, and tweeted that everyone should pay him a visit...the Black Panthers who put a $10K bounty on his head 'Dead or Alive' are too busy hating to wait until the facts are in.
Then a witness steps in and claims that the 'innocent victim' attacked Zimmerman and was sitting on him pummelling him and Zimmerman was screaming for help BEFORE the fatal shot was fired.
Hmm. Sort of puts a different spin on things, doesn't it?
I still say we should wait and see.
From what I've read, this 'innocent victim' might not be so innocent after all. Let's wait until all the information is in and find out, shall we?
Haters like Spike Lee, who posted Zimmerman's address not once, but TWICE on the internet, and tweeted that everyone should pay him a visit...the Black Panthers who put a $10K bounty on his head 'Dead or Alive' are too busy hating to wait until the facts are in.
Then a witness steps in and claims that the 'innocent victim' attacked Zimmerman and was sitting on him pummelling him and Zimmerman was screaming for help BEFORE the fatal shot was fired.
Hmm. Sort of puts a different spin on things, doesn't it?
I still say we should wait and see.
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My thoughts exactly Fly. Based on what the media has put out on this, they've already gotten Zimmerman tried & convicted. But there has got to be more to it than they are saying.
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The problem is that there are only two people who know what really happened and one of them is dead. Fly is right, we need to wait and see what comes out of this, but unfortunately the media wants to spin this into two things: Race & Stand Your Ground.
They are doing this for only one reason... the headlines sell papers and create hits on websites.
If it bleeds, it reads.
The truth is that Zimmerman could have been the aggressor, this may have been racially motivated, or that Trayvon really was just a thug who instigated a fight with the wrong guy. We simply don't know at this point.
Unfortunately for all of us though, the media and gun grabbers are going to use this as an excuse to attack the Castle Doctrine. IMHO it would have been better if the Sanford Police had at least detained Zimmerman, done a substance test and a proper initial investigation. That would have diffused some of the outrage that we're seeing now.
Just my $0.02...
They are doing this for only one reason... the headlines sell papers and create hits on websites.
If it bleeds, it reads.
The truth is that Zimmerman could have been the aggressor, this may have been racially motivated, or that Trayvon really was just a thug who instigated a fight with the wrong guy. We simply don't know at this point.
Unfortunately for all of us though, the media and gun grabbers are going to use this as an excuse to attack the Castle Doctrine. IMHO it would have been better if the Sanford Police had at least detained Zimmerman, done a substance test and a proper initial investigation. That would have diffused some of the outrage that we're seeing now.
Just my $0.02...
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One witnesses, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.
Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.
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I wasn't going to read this, because I try to avoid stupid spit like this so my blood won't boil (assuming that it is stupid), but now that you speak of the writer making allusions like that, I'll have to read it for the writing.smpsmp wrote:That article is BS like the rest of the media attention it is getting. The kid isn't as baby faced as every picture being shown across the media, let the police do their job, and at the end if Zimmerman committed a crime, then charge him. The kid getting set on fire by two others in Kansas (I think it was Kansas) didn't get this much attention, or the two kids who pushed the shopping cart of an edge and hit a lady two or three stories below walking, wonder why?
And on top if it all that article compares gun shops to porn. That is way off, I work in a gun shop, and customers don't have to buy to look or touch (however its encouraged). How many people can say they picked up a porn magazine and go to do more then look.
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Is the hyper-racial left so gallactically ignorant to actually endorse a lynch mob?
The 'new' Black Panther party, along with several so-called "civil rights" groups are offering a $10,000 reward for Mr. Zimmerman, "dead or alive". The political left is silent, so is the mainstream media, and several public figures also give it the old wink-wink.
Is it just me, or is this the definition of Irony. Civil rights groups were formed to combat unjust atrocities, one of which was the conviction and execution of blacks accused of crimes without a fair trial, otherwise known as a LYNCHING.
Now the same groups are endorsing exactly that, a LYNCHING of Zimmerman.
I guess lynchings are OK in the eyes of anyone left of center, as long as its "their kind of lynching".
Is the hyper-racial left so gallactically ignorant to actually endorse a lynch mob?
The 'new' Black Panther party, along with several so-called "civil rights" groups are offering a $10,000 reward for Mr. Zimmerman, "dead or alive". The political left is silent, so is the mainstream media, and several public figures also give it the old wink-wink.
Is it just me, or is this the definition of Irony. Civil rights groups were formed to combat unjust atrocities, one of which was the conviction and execution of blacks accused of crimes without a fair trial, otherwise known as a LYNCHING.
Now the same groups are endorsing exactly that, a LYNCHING of Zimmerman.
I guess lynchings are OK in the eyes of anyone left of center, as long as its "their kind of lynching".
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"Zimmerman might have been one more gun-carrying American in the year 2012 who still thought the combination of the hoodie and the young man’s color had to equal this:
Threat."
Guess what. Zimmerman MIGHT have. Pretty much all cops DO. Not the combination part; just the hoodie.
"But this was gun-crazy and gun-loving Florida, which has led the way on laws that allow the use of deadly force in self-defense outside the home with no duty to retreat. This is Florida, where young blacks between the ages of 13 and 21 are now 23 times more likely to be victims of a gun homicide than white males the same age."
Why the heck do I have to retreat if someone is trying to kill me? What if there's something behind me and I trip? What if I'm disabled? Also, your stupid tacked-on statistic has 0 bearing on this; correlation =/= causation.
"The opposite of all that is New York, which has the toughest and best gun laws in the country."
Best at keeping it out of lawful citizen's hands. When was the last time you heard a criminal ask the law for permission to buy an illegal firearm? Are you stupid? Wait, stupid question. I'm stupid now for asking.
"the way they keep making their way to the city from all the states in the South, where they worship guns as much as they do Jesus."
I don't even want to touch your condescending tone on your remark on someone's religious deity. If I had written an article and mentioned, "Those arabs still love their goats as much as they love worshipping Allah.", I'm sure your panties would be in such bunches that an entire sweatshop in Thailand wouldn't be able to untie them.
"Just about everywhere else the gun guys seem to get what they want. They now have 25 states with broad shoot-first laws. It means they are halfway to where they want to be someday."
Yes, perhaps. They are halfway to being alive and not infringed-upon. Next time I'll let the black guy in a hoodie beat you up while I laugh at your white pale weak behind and not lift a finger because I wouldn't want to be the guy who pushed the black guy in a hoodie off of the white guy. NO WAY NO SIR.
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I also LOL'd real hard at their poll.
H*** S***, I didn't know there were so many white people with white guilt out there. I need like a white guilt meter/radar so I can be more aware of my surroundings and stay the heck away from these people. Cuz when trouble comes knockin their teef out, I ain't gonna be near them, uh uh no sir. Be it white, black or hispanic.
They would actually probably get pleasure from being beaten up by a black dude, it would help them feel better about themselves. Maybe they should pay me, I'm a minority, I'm ethnic, I'm not white. I'll beat them up. I'll make sure they have a worker's union for me and benefits, and pay me by salary and not by the hour, however. I'll just get paid to beat up all these shriveled up over-spoilt white guilt writers and rich people.
Of course I assume they are rich, because they'd better sure as heck be, to afford my beating-up skills. :'D
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Threat."
Guess what. Zimmerman MIGHT have. Pretty much all cops DO. Not the combination part; just the hoodie.
"But this was gun-crazy and gun-loving Florida, which has led the way on laws that allow the use of deadly force in self-defense outside the home with no duty to retreat. This is Florida, where young blacks between the ages of 13 and 21 are now 23 times more likely to be victims of a gun homicide than white males the same age."
Why the heck do I have to retreat if someone is trying to kill me? What if there's something behind me and I trip? What if I'm disabled? Also, your stupid tacked-on statistic has 0 bearing on this; correlation =/= causation.
"The opposite of all that is New York, which has the toughest and best gun laws in the country."
Best at keeping it out of lawful citizen's hands. When was the last time you heard a criminal ask the law for permission to buy an illegal firearm? Are you stupid? Wait, stupid question. I'm stupid now for asking.
"the way they keep making their way to the city from all the states in the South, where they worship guns as much as they do Jesus."
I don't even want to touch your condescending tone on your remark on someone's religious deity. If I had written an article and mentioned, "Those arabs still love their goats as much as they love worshipping Allah.", I'm sure your panties would be in such bunches that an entire sweatshop in Thailand wouldn't be able to untie them.
"Just about everywhere else the gun guys seem to get what they want. They now have 25 states with broad shoot-first laws. It means they are halfway to where they want to be someday."
Yes, perhaps. They are halfway to being alive and not infringed-upon. Next time I'll let the black guy in a hoodie beat you up while I laugh at your white pale weak behind and not lift a finger because I wouldn't want to be the guy who pushed the black guy in a hoodie off of the white guy. NO WAY NO SIR.
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I also LOL'd real hard at their poll.
H*** S***, I didn't know there were so many white people with white guilt out there. I need like a white guilt meter/radar so I can be more aware of my surroundings and stay the heck away from these people. Cuz when trouble comes knockin their teef out, I ain't gonna be near them, uh uh no sir. Be it white, black or hispanic.
They would actually probably get pleasure from being beaten up by a black dude, it would help them feel better about themselves. Maybe they should pay me, I'm a minority, I'm ethnic, I'm not white. I'll beat them up. I'll make sure they have a worker's union for me and benefits, and pay me by salary and not by the hour, however. I'll just get paid to beat up all these shriveled up over-spoilt white guilt writers and rich people.
Of course I assume they are rich, because they'd better sure as heck be, to afford my beating-up skills. :'D
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Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
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Re: Guns are bad MMMMm K
Just read an article that Martin was suspended from school because they found traces of marijuana in a plastic bag in his book bag. Now all of Martins supporters are up in arms saying someone leaked that info from the dept to tarnish the kids reputation. This is becoming more and more of a joke as the days go by. No one wants to wait and let the dept do their job, and it was somehow ok to dig into zimmermann's life but not Martins life. If Zimmermann never gets charged or does get charged either way there's going to be one side claiming it wasn't fair. You know it's becoming a circus act when the idiot-in-chief makes comments about it.
Blue, somehow I read over the part in the article about the south, guns, and religion. I must have been too annoyed by the time I got to that part to even pay half attention to the article.
Fly and Greenberg, second what you two said.
Blue, somehow I read over the part in the article about the south, guns, and religion. I must have been too annoyed by the time I got to that part to even pay half attention to the article.
Fly and Greenberg, second what you two said.
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Well... it can be argued many ways, (or one).
Pretty much all those "thug lyfe" (or wannabes) speak like that. Black, white, hispanic, whatever. It's pretty common, and very prevalent among the "gangsta" population.
Regardless of how idiotic they act, it should be noted that they share a genuine appreciation for illiteracy.
One of the biggest jokes (to me) that I freely point out whenever (and sometimes, without) the opportunity arises, is how the liberal "gangstas" and "pimps" in the music and celebrity industry love to call certain factions "bigots" and "hypocrites".
When they themselves parade around addressing women like they are sex slaves, sex toys, and walking _______.
Then they say they are for equal women's rights, that the white man keeps them down, and other more boorish, rehashed, heard-before rabid excuses for why the general population of whatever race they might be can't aggregate into a more powerful faction in the political world.
Perhaps we only need to look at the fact that the culmination of their efforts to redesign the female gender has earned them ridiculous capital and realize that they are the biggest hypocrites, bigots, and disgraces to their own cause.
A cause, that they wear so proudly on their sleeves, begging mankind to hear their plea.
I needn't create an "Us vs. Them" significance. They, within themselves, have already placed such an emphasis, when the only way to get to the top and announce their top-dogness is to put everyone else down on their way to further depreciating women (of...any race, ethnicity, or culture).
I'm sorry I probably tired you of reading the stupid words I spout. I, myself, am pretty tired of spouting such words.
Pretty much all those "thug lyfe" (or wannabes) speak like that. Black, white, hispanic, whatever. It's pretty common, and very prevalent among the "gangsta" population.
Regardless of how idiotic they act, it should be noted that they share a genuine appreciation for illiteracy.
One of the biggest jokes (to me) that I freely point out whenever (and sometimes, without) the opportunity arises, is how the liberal "gangstas" and "pimps" in the music and celebrity industry love to call certain factions "bigots" and "hypocrites".
When they themselves parade around addressing women like they are sex slaves, sex toys, and walking _______.
Then they say they are for equal women's rights, that the white man keeps them down, and other more boorish, rehashed, heard-before rabid excuses for why the general population of whatever race they might be can't aggregate into a more powerful faction in the political world.
Perhaps we only need to look at the fact that the culmination of their efforts to redesign the female gender has earned them ridiculous capital and realize that they are the biggest hypocrites, bigots, and disgraces to their own cause.
A cause, that they wear so proudly on their sleeves, begging mankind to hear their plea.
I needn't create an "Us vs. Them" significance. They, within themselves, have already placed such an emphasis, when the only way to get to the top and announce their top-dogness is to put everyone else down on their way to further depreciating women (of...any race, ethnicity, or culture).
I'm sorry I probably tired you of reading the stupid words I spout. I, myself, am pretty tired of spouting such words.
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Sorry Rapier, You can either delete this or combine it with the other thread. I didn't think the other thread covered this too much.
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In a twist of fate, the illustrious gentleman who fancies himself the leader for the Black Panthers and posted the reward for Zimmerman has been arrested....for being a felon in possession of a handgun. A FiveSeven no less!
I must admit, I think this may be the first story where the gun wasn't demonized as a horrible cop killer....coincidence?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/ne ... mp=related
I must admit, I think this may be the first story where the gun wasn't demonized as a horrible cop killer....coincidence?
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This debacle is such a mess...
I blame Obama for fanning the flames on this one, as he decided to speculate on a case which he has no knowledge of the facts, spreading slanderous comments that spurred this racial tension and defamation of the shooter in question. The president has no right to comment on legal cases, swaying public opinion.
This along with every other anti-gun nonsense is based on false propaganda and the resulting mob mentality.
I am not looking forward to experiencing Obama's second term.
I blame Obama for fanning the flames on this one, as he decided to speculate on a case which he has no knowledge of the facts, spreading slanderous comments that spurred this racial tension and defamation of the shooter in question. The president has no right to comment on legal cases, swaying public opinion.
This along with every other anti-gun nonsense is based on false propaganda and the resulting mob mentality.
I am not looking forward to experiencing Obama's second term.
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You bring up a really important point. I have a suspicion that with the current hyper-partisan politics and the gulf getting wider every day, that we're gonna see the POTUS (from whichever side of the aisle he's from) using the bully pulpit to further whatever cause they are in favor of. Pick your poison, it doesn't matter: 2A rights, religion, abortion, stem cell research. I can see it coming as clear as an oncoming frieght train.cHaMeLeoN352 wrote:This debacle is such a mess...
I blame Obama for fanning the flames on this one, as he decided to speculate on a case which he has no knowledge of the facts, spreading slanderous comments that spurred this racial tension and defamation of the shooter in question. The president has no right to comment on legal cases, swaying public opinion.
This along with every other anti-gun nonsense is based on false propaganda and the resulting mob mentality.
I am not looking forward to experiencing Obama's second term.
This isn't the first time he's done this and personally I don't think the president should comment on ongoing legal issues, especially when the investigation isn't close to complete.
I suppose one could argue that he is (as will any future POTUS) is simply exercising his 1A right.
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My question would be, If Zimmerman was cleared of any wrong doing in this case could he go after POTUS, Rev. Jesse Jerkson, Rev. Al "not so" Sharpton and others for defamation of character prior to LE's findings???? I think it could be argued that if this went to trial that Mr. Zimmerman couldn't get a fair hearing in any part of the country do to the publicity and the fact that even Obama is weighing in with his 2 cents.
The president above all others should know not to comment on active cases because our judicial system states that everyone, "is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law." Obama is an emberassment to the office he holds and only cares about getting those Florida votes, he is showing that he has no moral or ethics!!
The president above all others should know not to comment on active cases because our judicial system states that everyone, "is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law." Obama is an emberassment to the office he holds and only cares about getting those Florida votes, he is showing that he has no moral or ethics!!
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You're all missing the point. Somebody is dead because of a gun. If we took guns away, people wouldn't die from them anymore. Duh.
Especially white people should not have guns because they hate all of the other kinds of people and that makes them more dangerouser.
Especially white people should not have guns because they hate all of the other kinds of people and that makes them more dangerouser.
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NEW BLACK PANTHERS LEADER ARRESTED FOR GUN POSSESSION
NEW BLACK PANTHERS LEADER ARRESTED FOR GUN POSSESSION
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Wait what you tripping homie. It sounds like you be saying that the prez would be stepping into the juice box without knowing the flavor flav. No way he do that homes. I mean there be this one time he like kinda did it by making some asinine comment, about his boy from Harvard and this cop. But you know how the popo be tripping. So like to smooth it all over he bring 'em both to the white house for a beer. O yeah and this one time he didn't actually read the teleprompter and started to re-read his own introduction. OOOO and this one time he slightly screwed up and pulled troops out of this country and didn't really accomplish anything, like the complete destruction of an organization that vows annihilate western civilization. I mean I read in this book one time there was one country that tried it lmao and yo check this out America only had to drop two bombs and they where all like. "Ok, we give." But nah, homie BHO he never step into something to soon without knowing exactly what be going on. You feel me?
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WOW
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I'm pretty sure this should be the definition of WRONG!!!!! lol and/or FAIL
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I'm pretty sure this should be the definition of WRONG!!!!! lol and/or FAIL
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All I can say is this whole deal smells worse than 3 day old fish.
An innocent 17 year old kid is just walking home and a crime watch dude just up and kills him 'cuz he's wearing a hoodie' and he's black?
Uhhh, yeah.
I don't buy it.
Then we have witnesses that the innocent victim attacked the crime watch dude.
Well, that makes more sense. But why?
Then we see a few of his social networking posts and he acts like a 'gangsta' online. Does he in 'real life'? Hmmm???
Well, now we find out that the innocent kid is actually a troubled teen who gets into trouble at school, had been expelled a few times and had drugs at school and was on a 2 week suspension.
OH! Well, now the picture is starting to clear up a bit.
Yeah. I think I'm gonna go with the libtards and the media and just start tying a noose for Mr. Zimmerman.
Where's the nearest tall tree?
NOT.
I think I was right the first time. Time and logical thinking usually wins out above knee-jerk emotional responses.
Plus, I knew that if Obama guessed left, the answer MUST be to the right...
An innocent 17 year old kid is just walking home and a crime watch dude just up and kills him 'cuz he's wearing a hoodie' and he's black?
Uhhh, yeah.
I don't buy it.
Then we have witnesses that the innocent victim attacked the crime watch dude.
Well, that makes more sense. But why?
Then we see a few of his social networking posts and he acts like a 'gangsta' online. Does he in 'real life'? Hmmm???
Well, now we find out that the innocent kid is actually a troubled teen who gets into trouble at school, had been expelled a few times and had drugs at school and was on a 2 week suspension.
OH! Well, now the picture is starting to clear up a bit.
Yeah. I think I'm gonna go with the libtards and the media and just start tying a noose for Mr. Zimmerman.
Where's the nearest tall tree?
NOT.
I think I was right the first time. Time and logical thinking usually wins out above knee-jerk emotional responses.
Plus, I knew that if Obama guessed left, the answer MUST be to the right...
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Bobby Rush can get away with saying anything he wants because he's.......................................................................................................................................................Shaokhano wrote:WOW
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I'm pretty sure this should be the definition of WRONG!!!!! lol and/or FAIL
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Gold Star for re-enacting a gangsta and his gangsta speech.
However, it looks like Dem Bobby tried to re-enact gangsta, also, and got escorted off the floor.
LOL :lmao:
However, it looks like Dem Bobby tried to re-enact gangsta, also, and got escorted off the floor.
LOL :lmao:
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A couple who say they were forced to leave their home after director Spike Lee retweeted their address to his Twitter followers has hired the Morgan & Morgan law firm to represent them.
"At this point, they have retained us to protect their interests" and their safety, attorney Matt Morgan said of Elaine and David McClain, an elderly Sanford couple in their 70s.
The couple's address was tweeted by a man who thought he had uncovered the address of George Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch coordinator who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last month.
The problem is, the address does not belong to Zimmerman but to the McClains, who have a son named William George Zimmerman who lived there in 1995 and still lives in Central Florida
After Lee's retweet, the couple's other son says, the McClains have been forced to flee their home and live in a hotel given the rapidly spreading threats of violence against the real Zimmerman.
"At this point, they've had to move out of their home and their lives have been upended," Morgan said.
Morgan declined Wednesday to discuss any possible future litigation on the couple's behalf.
"The first thing they're hoping for is an apology and a retraction by Spike Lee," Morgan said, adding that the couple hope their story can help "heal the divide between the white and black community."
About 10 p.m. Wednesday, Lee tweeted his regrets.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... morgan-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sebastian has a few good thoughts here:
http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/03/28/new ... rman-case/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
breitbart.com
'Kill Zimmerman' Twitter Account Launched
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It appears as though some have been reporting the account for violation of Twitters Terms of Service. For now, the account remains live.
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Is it just me or does everyone else feel that this has the potential to get REALLY nasty?
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I believe that is the intent. They® are trying to create a racial situation where there was none.
This along with OccupyFail could add to an what is already gearing up to be an interesting summer.
http://www.theblaze.com/?s=zimmerman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edit, add: http://news.investors.com/article/60593 ... cident.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/ ... z1qWORJa4h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This along with OccupyFail could add to an what is already gearing up to be an interesting summer.
http://www.theblaze.com/?s=zimmerman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The left, Obama included, is uninterested in facts; they're using this tragedy to fan the flames of racial division — race-based discord works for them politically.
In the words of Obama's first White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste" — even if that means exploiting violence.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/ ... z1qWORJa4h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To be blunt, the Trayvon Martin incident increasingly resembles something one might expect in lawless Pakistan or Somalia -- enraged rabble marching through the streets searching from some alleged perpetrator of some rumored crime so as to dispense on-the-spot justice.
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This is fully their intent. Allow things to get completely out of control until someone turns to firearms use to either defend themselves or to enact justice in the name of some perceived injustice. Meanwhile, those in power will continue to fan the flames of hate and discord until something snaps...and when it does, they will come down with the full force and might of the federal government and make wide sweeping and far overreaching mandates that will strip the American people of their rights, ALL in the name of protecting the innocent.Llagoud wrote:I believe that is the intent. They® are trying to create a racial situation where there was none.
This along with OccupyFail could add to an what is already gearing up to be an interesting summer.
To be blunt, the Trayvon Martin incident increasingly resembles something one might expect in lawless Pakistan or Somalia -- enraged rabble marching through the streets searching from some alleged perpetrator of some rumored crime so as to dispense on-the-spot justice.
Tyranny this way comes...
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So the race war isn't on yet? Ahhh POO, I really liked having a real reason to hang out in my super secret underground bunker other than to get away from the wifey while she had aunt flow visiting.
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I think it has the potential to spill into something if the politicians and professional blacktivists keep fanning the flames. And then a capstone event happens like some sort of random announcement that "there will be no charges filed" by the Police or something.romer522 wrote:Is it just me or does everyone else feel that this has the potential to get REALLY nasty?
If so, its going to wind up pretty bad for anyone who wants to join-in on a riot or civil unrest. I think there is a LARGE silent majority out there who is ready to defend their lives, families, and property at a moment's notice against that kind of ridiculous thuggery.
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Trayvon Martin case exposes worst in media
Well surprise, surprise. :skep:
1. "Enhanced videos"
2. Edited 911 call
3. Interviewing a funeral director as if he is a forensics expert
Oh and check out the pics. Remember that blue & red bho "hope" campaign pic? They made one for Trayvon.
Trayvon Martin case exposes worst in media
Well surprise, surprise. :skep:
Some examples they point outThe Trayvon Martin case has exposed some of the media's worst tendencies--selective editing, rushing to judgment, stoking anger for ratings and page views--and it's taken more than fake photos, the incendiary stumbles of Geraldo Rivera and Spike Lee and verbal clashes between Piers Morgan and Toure to shine a light on them.
1. "Enhanced videos"
2. Edited 911 call
3. Interviewing a funeral director as if he is a forensics expert
Oh and check out the pics. Remember that blue & red bho "hope" campaign pic? They made one for Trayvon.
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Quote of the Day: Narrative Destroying Edition
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I can fan the flames too: :furious:
These thug-life hoodlums are animals, how does this crap not make the news...?
This man was clearly in danger of his life and if he had been concealed carrying a weapon, could have defended himself from this malicious attack.
The more gun rights are violated, the more vulnerable many of us will become; especially those of us in the urban jungle, where there is the most restriction.
Since the MD CCW law was declared unconstitutional, I am hoping that will come to fruition and allow me to defend myself. Until then, I will just have to settle for the 35+ states my non-resident CCW has reciprocity with.
These thug-life hoodlums are animals, how does this crap not make the news...?
This man was clearly in danger of his life and if he had been concealed carrying a weapon, could have defended himself from this malicious attack.
The more gun rights are violated, the more vulnerable many of us will become; especially those of us in the urban jungle, where there is the most restriction.
Since the MD CCW law was declared unconstitutional, I am hoping that will come to fruition and allow me to defend myself. Until then, I will just have to settle for the 35+ states my non-resident CCW has reciprocity with.
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There is a link to a .pdf of the partial police report.
There is a link to a .pdf of the partial police report.
It also states that Zimmerman was bleeding from nose & back of head and the officer overheard him (Zimmerman) say that he had called out to neighbors for help but no one responded.The report states that George Zimmerman's gun "was placed into evidence" and not returned to him, and the scene of the shooting was secured with crime scene tape. This directly conflicts with statements made by civil rights activists, including Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had claimed the Sanford, Fla., police department "didn't even bother to put yellow tape around the murder scene when he died—that's how much the police did to find out what happened to this young boy."
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Bold bunch of thieves aren't they? Reaching into his pockets while surrounding him. If he'd have had a gun they'd have probably stole it unless he went off recklessly waving it around right off the get go - in which case he'd probably have been arrested. Lose lose situation - don't carry a gun, get assaulted & robbed. Carry a gun & draw it to keep criminals at bay & get arrested for brandishing. Carry a gun & defend your life, someone dies... No good way out of a situation like that.cHaMeLeoN352 wrote:
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I wouldn't recommend drawing a CCW in that situation and pointing it at everyone who approaches, but I firmly believe he wouldn't have become surrounded and assaulted if he had been carrying a defensive weapon. He would have had the confidence and means to remove himself from the situation.Rapier1772 wrote: Bold bunch of thieves aren't they? Reaching into his pockets while surrounding him. If he'd have had a gun they'd have probably stole it unless he went off recklessly waving it around right off the get go - in which case he'd probably have been arrested. Lose lose situation - don't carry a gun, get assaulted & robbed. Carry a gun & draw it to keep criminals at bay & get arrested for brandishing. Carry a gun & defend your life, someone dies... No good way out of a situation like that.
However, without any means of defense, he was simply a target.
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I want tot throw up; this video disgusted and reminded me.cHaMeLeoN352 wrote:I can fan the flames too: :furious:
These thug-life hoodlums are animals, how does this crap not make the news...?
This man was clearly in danger of his life and if he had been concealed carrying a weapon, could have defended himself from this malicious attack.
The more gun rights are violated, the more vulnerable many of us will become; especially those of us in the urban jungle, where there is the most restriction.
Since the MD CCW law was declared unconstitutional, I am hoping that will come to fruition and allow me to defend myself. Until then, I will just have to settle for the 35+ states my non-resident CCW has reciprocity with.
"It all happened so fast."
Perhaps that's what the white victim would say to the police. Or perhaps that's what a witness would say, describing how quickly the white victim responded.
The moment that black guy's hand touched him as he tried to reach into his pocket, he should have responded swiftly. This was cold and calculated; the way they took him out before he could gather his courage to respond. This makes me sick.
It also reminds me of the news story.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/news/local ... m-murders/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I feel really sickened. These people in both stories that robbed, killed, assaulted and raped the victims; they should have all been shot on the spot for assisting the inhumane acts of violence against the victims.
And this has nothing to do with race; if the attackers were white and the victims black, the same applies.
I'm going to go throw up, now.
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My intention was not to make you sick Blue, I apologize.
The sad fact is, too many people are fed misinformation by the anti-gun activists and ignorant of the data showing the number of lives saved in self-defense or crimes prevented. Their only focus is on the negligent gun owners and the mentally insane, who commit heinous acts of violence without any regard for human life.
One of my favorite books, "The Art of the Rifle," which is so eloquently written by Jeff Cooper, has some words of wisdom that unfortunately is too logical for some people to understand:
"...Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons...The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized...The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
I too believe there are more good men than evil, and hope one day the general public will agree, creating a system where good people can defend themselves from evil acts.
Until then, I can only live by the principles I firmly believe in, and try to educate others who may be influenced by the mass media fear campaign.
This certainly has nothing to do with race. People are tribal in nature, inherently organizing themselves into cohesive groups to readily identify their enemies. The race war was legitimized by Obama, inciting violence in his African american followers. A young black man was shot in self-defense by a Latino man...where is the racism?
Maybe it's because Zimmerman sounds Jewish...
The sad fact is, too many people are fed misinformation by the anti-gun activists and ignorant of the data showing the number of lives saved in self-defense or crimes prevented. Their only focus is on the negligent gun owners and the mentally insane, who commit heinous acts of violence without any regard for human life.
One of my favorite books, "The Art of the Rifle," which is so eloquently written by Jeff Cooper, has some words of wisdom that unfortunately is too logical for some people to understand:
"...Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons...The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized...The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
I too believe there are more good men than evil, and hope one day the general public will agree, creating a system where good people can defend themselves from evil acts.
Until then, I can only live by the principles I firmly believe in, and try to educate others who may be influenced by the mass media fear campaign.
This certainly has nothing to do with race. People are tribal in nature, inherently organizing themselves into cohesive groups to readily identify their enemies. The race war was legitimized by Obama, inciting violence in his African american followers. A young black man was shot in self-defense by a Latino man...where is the racism?
Maybe it's because Zimmerman sounds Jewish...
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Some truthful facts to combat the propaganda:
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
* Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.
*During the years in which the D.C. handgun ban and trigger lock law was in effect, the Washington, D.C. murder rate averaged 73% higher than it was at the outset of the law.
The facts continue for different States and various gun control measures shown to be ineffective.
For anyone who is interested the facts can be found here: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I found the data on England useful in showing the direct correlation between enforcing restrictive gun control and the resulting gun crimes.
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
* Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.
*During the years in which the D.C. handgun ban and trigger lock law was in effect, the Washington, D.C. murder rate averaged 73% higher than it was at the outset of the law.
The facts continue for different States and various gun control measures shown to be ineffective.
For anyone who is interested the facts can be found here: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I found the data on England useful in showing the direct correlation between enforcing restrictive gun control and the resulting gun crimes.
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Well it's official you can't protect yourself anymore if your getting assaulted by someone of a different race.
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The logic that, basically, 90%/themajority of people in the world are stupid, applies.
I wasn't there, neither were they.
I wasn't there, neither were they.
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I think they had to charge the guy just to appease that much public & avert riots. Thanks to the media putting their spin on things of course. He oughta sue NBC for slander after that 911 call thing they pulled.
I just hope when the trial comes around that:
A) No one goes vigilante
B) The whole truth comes out & is made public
I just hope when the trial comes around that:
A) No one goes vigilante
B) The whole truth comes out & is made public
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All the bigotscallingbigots in the media station; the directors, the scripters, the whatnot;Rapier1772 wrote:I think they had to charge the guy just to appease that much public & avert riots. Thanks to the media putting their spin on things of course. He oughta sue NBC for slander after that 911 call thing they pulled.
I just hope when the trial comes around that:
A) No one goes vigilante
B) The whole truth comes out & is made public
you blame and finger-point each and everyday at your country for "sending soldiers to war to die" and disgrace them.
yet, each day, as it passes, you find no qualms about sending Zimmerman to die, because, afterall, "it's just your job to do the news".
I don't know the truth, I wasn't there.
But I hope the honest irony burns into your consciousness and never lets you sleep without it.
I avoid politics. This isn't politics. This is your conscious decision to publish lies. You do it weekly; with Osama, with 9/11, with every "AK47" "machine-gun" story, and you do it, not to my surprise, but dismay.
I haven't owned a TV in over 7 years. It is because you make me throw up.
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Still, the saying holds true:
Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.
Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.
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:agree:
just my two cents "plink, plink"
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For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother...."
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just my two cents "plink, plink"
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother...."
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He's already been charged, tried and judged in the court of public opinion in most of this country.
The media has seen to that.
Tell me...WHERE will they find 12 peers who aren't tainted and already have a pretty strong opinion of young Mr. Zimmerman? Where can they move his venue to?
The media has seen to that.
Tell me...WHERE will they find 12 peers who aren't tainted and already have a pretty strong opinion of young Mr. Zimmerman? Where can they move his venue to?
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How sad is it that they are tweeting & reporting on what Zimm bought at the jail store?
Actually, considering as much time as this guy spends studying here, I can believe that. He doesn't have time to do anything else.
Well there is ONE guy here at school who claims he doesn't know anything about it :laugh:Cyberfly wrote:He's already been charged, tried and judged in the court of public opinion in most of this country.
The media has seen to that.
Tell me...WHERE will they find 12 peers who aren't tainted and already have a pretty strong opinion of young Mr. Zimmerman? Where can they move his venue to?
Actually, considering as much time as this guy spends studying here, I can believe that. He doesn't have time to do anything else.
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out west? or at least it will be a opinion of his side arm?Cyberfly wrote:He's already been charged, tried and judged in the court of public opinion in most of this country.
The media has seen to that.
Tell me...WHERE will they find 12 peers who aren't tainted and already have a pretty strong opinion of young Mr. Zimmerman? Where can they move his venue to?
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